Deb Placey is joined by Jarmo Kekalainen, the General Manager of the Columbus Blue Jackets. Jarmo kicks off the conversation talking about his favorite hobby and one of his favorite professional athletes to watch perform (3:00). He talks about all the injuries the Jackets have dealt with during the 2019-20 season, how gaining experience has helped him enjoy his time in the GM role, and the biggest challenges he faces regularly while running the Club (5:00). Jarmo reminisces about growing up in Finland, discusses the principles he tries to live by, and reacts to some of the perceptions that NHL player agents have had about him (7:30). He explains how he got his start in hockey as an agent, how his relationship with John Davidson has evolved over time, how he got the GM job in Columbus, and what it meant to become the first ever European GM in the NHL (14:00). He shares what it’s like to work with John Tortorella, and explains why he thinks Torts is a perfect fit for him and the players (21:00). He also tells us the one thing he NEVER does with Tortorella (22:30). Jarmo finishes the conversation talking about his two young goaltenders and their promising futures, the 2018-19 playoff run, and shares some personal nuggets about himself in Deb’s “Executive Summary” (30:00).