Deb Placey is joined by Kyle Dubas, the Toronto Maple Leafs General Manager. He talks about his first meeting with Brendan Shanahan (5:17) and why their relationship has worked (7:21). He explains why he decided to pursue being a player agent and why the profession ultimately wasn’t for him (17:07). Dubas recounts how he was able to land the general manager job with the Sault Ste. Marie Greyhounds and reveals how the experience was very special to him and his family (20:20). He describes his relationship with Mike Babcock (29:30), preaches the importance of diversity (32:50) and explains why naming a team captain in Toronto means more there than it may for other franchises (34:22).