Join us for a conversation with Jenn Canvasser and Jae Kim, as we share our profound experiences from the recent NEC symposium. Capturing moments of sheer collaboration and transformative conversations, we shed light on how patient-led organizations shape the narrative at these significant gatherings.In our chat, we also turn the spotlight on the NEC Society's commitment to equality and collaboration that set a high bar at the symposium. Their vision of a world without NEC resonates deeply with us, highlighting the need for a paradigm shift in the NICU with a more family-centered approach to care. Through the lens of our resilient team, we discuss the challenges we faced during the global pandemic and the crucial role of collective maturity in these testing times.  As always, feel free to send us questions, comments, or suggestions to our email: nicupodcast@gmail.com. You can also contact the show through Instagram or Twitter, @nicupodcast. Or contact Ben and Daphna directly via their Twitter profiles: @drnicu and @doctordaphnamd. The papers discussed in today's episode are listed and timestamped on the webpage linked below. Enjoy!