If we want to change power systems, then we need to understand the animal forces that drive our behavior.As Stanford Graduate School of Business professor of organizational behavior Deborah Gruenfeld observes, wherever there are humans, there are hierarchies. “People have a tendency to form hierarchies almost instantly in all kinds of organizational settings, whether the task requires it or not,” she says.Gruenfeld says our actions are still very much steered by primal drives. She unpacks this in the inaugural episode of If/Then: Business, Leadership, Society.“One of the ways in which we're like animals is that we need to organize ourselves in order to survive,” says Gruenfeld, who studies group dynamics and decision-making. “It’s a very basic instinct to create structures in groups that help members coordinate so they don't have to fight with one another.”Gruenfeld’s insights open a discussion about how we can modify existing hierarchies to create relationships, organizations, and the society we want. As this episode of If/Then explores, if we want to change power systems, then we need to understand the animal forces that drive our behavior.If/Then is a podcast from Stanford Graduate School of Business that examines research findings that can help us navigate the complex issues we face in business, leadership, and society. Each episode features an interview with a Stanford GSB faculty member.More Resources:Deborah Gruenfeld on Stanford GSB's podcast, Think Fast, Talk Smart, “How to Communicate Power” Deborah Gruenfeld on Stanford GSB's podcast, Grit & Growth, "The Psychology of Power and Influence"Insights featuring research by Deborah Gruenfeld: "We Don't Like Domineering Bosses. So Why Do We Put Up With Them?" Class Takeaways: Managing Successful Groups and TeamsDiverse Teams Produce Better DecisionsSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.