In this episode, I talk with Ellen Nauman - programme director of OBATs - the Official BAT School.  We discuss BAT, developed by Grisha Stewart - and how BAT helps dogs to remain under-threshold in the presence of triggers which would previously have put them over-threshold.  These triggers are conventionally other people or other dogs, but can also be game - or anything else animate.  If you'd like more information about training as a BAT instructor, check out the link above to the Official BAT School.  If you'd like more general info about BAT, see Grisha's website.