In this episode, we chat with Ryan Whited, a trainer who developed a unique approach to pain management called 'Training is Treatment.' Whited shares his experiences, which include grappling with injuries stemming from his various physical activities such as Karate, football, and climbing. As an expansion of his coaching, Whited has co-authored a book named 'Pain and Performance' with Matt Fitzgerald. Leveraging a biographical approach, it reveals Whited’s journey from athlete to coach, helping others manage pain through a simplified, non-medicalized, and empowering method. The goal is to foster independence in the athletes and steer them away from the prevailing notion that pain equals damage.00:00 Introduction and Meeting Ryan Whited00:32 The Failed First Attempt at Podcasting01:27 How Matt and Ryan Met02:50 The Idea of Writing a Book Together03:55 The Role of Pain in Performance06:56 The Importance of Understanding Pain09:21 The Role of Emotion in Pain Management13:13 The Impact of Pain on Athletes17:33 The Story of a Patient's Pain Journey19:47 The Importance of Contextualizing Pain21:16 The Role of Coaching in Pain Management22:10 The Misconceptions about Pain and Injury24:51 The Impact of the Book 'Pain and Performance'27:19 The Titanic Analogy and the Need for Change27:35 Introducing the Book: Pain and Performance28:28 Challenging the Current Medical Paradigm30:34 The Role of a Coach vs. a Clinician33:38 The Importance of Empowering Athletes34:01 The Misconceptions about Pain and Injury35:03 The Dance Metaphor: Understanding Pain35:29 Real-life Examples of the Methodology in Action39:23 The Impact of the Book on Coaches42:40 The Complexity of Pain and the Neuroscience Behind It46:03 The Unusual Life Stories of the AuthorConnect with Ryan:Instagram: @training_as_treatmentCheck Out Ryan's Gym: Paragon AthleticsConnect With Us:Hanna @hannadoesfitness, Hanna's JamsMatt @fitzgerald.matt, Matt's Jams80/20 EnduranceSign up for the 80/20 Endurance Newsletter here