The tables get turned on this episode and Jason is interviewed by last week’s guest, Phil Batterson! This episode was initially recorded for the Critical Oxygen Podcast. Our conversation takes a broader look at the "why" behind our training philosophies.  Here are some of the topics our conversation covers: Jason Fitzgerald’s background in running and coaching The importance of maximizing consistency  Why optimization is going to be different for each athlete Distinguishing between utilization and capacity training Why Jason considers himself “a developmental coach” How running teaches values that are universally applicable The evolution of Jason’s strength training philosophy Training philosophy is a passion for us both, and our discussion will help give you a behind the scenes look at how I approach coaching for runners of all levels. Links & Resources from the Show: Work with me! Check out the Critical Oxygen podcast and blog Listen to last week’s episode with Phil Follow Phil on Instagram Thank you DrinkLMNT! A big thanks to DrinkLMNT for their support of this episode! They make electrolyte drinks for athletes and low-carb folks with no sugar, artificial ingredients, or colors. They are offering a free gift with your purchase at DrinkLMNT. And this does NOT have to be your first purchase. You’ll get a sample pack with every flavor so you can try them all before deciding what you like best.  DrinkLMNT's products have some of the highest sodium concentrations that you can find. Anybody who runs a lot knows that sodium, as well as other electrolytes like magnesium and potassium, are essential to our performance and how we feel throughout the day. My favorite flavor is watermelon salt, but citrus salt is also a banger. I’m drinking one a day now to help me get enough fluids in our dry Colorado air. It’s tasty and delicious and I find that I’m not peeing every 45 minutes throughout the day, which might be an indication I wasn’t eating enough sodium. There’s now mounting evidence that higher sodium intake levels are not unhealthy – and athletes need substantially more than your typical sedentary person. Of course, ask your doctor if you’re worried. But for those athletes running outside in the heat, an electrolyte replacement makes a lot of sense. So check out DrinkLMNT to try their new flavor or get a free sampler pack. Thank You Previnex! After resisting most supplements for the better part of my life, I’m cautiously changing my tune. I’m now a Masters runner and in my personal life, I’m optimizing for longevity. I want to be my healthiest self for as long as possible and I’m excited to partner with Previnex to make that happen. Previnex uses the most bioavailable, clinically tested ingredients, the optimal form and dose of each ingredient, pharmaceutical grade manufacturing, testing of raw ingredients and finished products. For every purchase you make, they also donate vitamins to kids in need. Their new Muscle Health Plus is something I'm now taking. Turning 40 - and having a thin frame - has made me realize that I need to prioritize lean muscle mass to stay healthy and age well. Muscle Health Plus has creatine, essential and branched chain amino acids, and it's designed in a way to maximize protein synthesis and the absorption of amino acids. With clincially proven ingredients, I hope you'll try it. Use code jason15 for 15% off your order at Previnex!