Join us for a frank discussion on ESG, climate investing, and the need for government policy through taxes and subsidies to push companies into doing the right thing for the climate crisis. As our guest Ken Pucker, former COO of Timberland, says, ESG has no impact on saving the planet. Ken talks about the challenges for all of us in understanding when and where real Capital is invested in impacting climate change. Ken argues that better accounting on externalities alone is not enough. We need to price externalities to drive real behaviour change. Hence, the role of government policy is to play a role with taxation and subsidies to reward good behaviour and punish bad.  A Podcast by Tec Sounds. ** If you enjoy this podcast, would you consider leaving a review on Apple Podcasts/iTunes? It takes only a few seconds and greatly helps us get our podcast out to a wider audience. Please subscribe on Apple Podcasts / Spotify / Stitcher, or wherever you get your podcasts. For transcripts and show notes, please go to: https://www.theconsciouscapitalists.com Thank you for your support! Timothy & Raj