Phil Cooke interviews Bobby Gruenewald about his concept of the “abundance mindset” that he applies in leading creative teams. Bobby serves as Pastor and Innovation Leader at Life.Church, a multisite church based in Oklahoma; and is the founder of the YouVersion Bible App with over 500 million unique downloads globally. He is passionate about exploring new ideas and finding practical ways to leverage them for the global Church.   Quick takeaways from this interview…   “The fruit [idea] is not my identity; my identity is in the Tree…This makes me very open to feedback. It’s okay if this isn’t the best idea. I’m confident God’s going to enable me to produce more.” – Bobby Gruenewald   “Part of being creative is not being too critical too early, but at some point being realistic and filtering out things that won’t work.” – Phil Cooke   The “abundance mindset” axiom: “If you don’t like this idea, don’t worry, there’s more where that came from. God designed me to create and I’m confident in that design.” – Bobby Gruenewald   “The credibility of the critic really matters.” – Phil Cooke   “When you have people with your best interest (or the vision or the ministry) at heart that give you feedback, those are the right people to listen to.” – Bobby Gruenewald   Follow Bobby Gruenewald @bobbygwald https://www.facebook.com/bobbygwald/ https://www.instagram.com/bobbygwald/ https://twitter.com/bobbygwald   Find out more about YouVersion: https://www.youversion.com/ Get the free Bible App from YouVersion here: https://www.youversion.com/the-bible-app/ Find out more about Life Church: https://www.life.church/   For more tips on leadership and leading creative teams, visit Phil’s blog at https://www.philcooke.com   Get a free eBook on Creativity! Sign up now at https://www.philcooke.com Visit Phil Cooke’s YouTube channel at https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzivfiicpepFmAv5ZblgYWQ  Find out more about Cooke Media Group here: https://www.cookemediagroup.com