Lance does not like the new numbers for youth sport participation. He remembers some things that pushed his kids away.

Rolly thinks that coaches need to modulate their approach to the younger groups.

Randall thinks that the phone somewhat is replacing the kids' enthusiasm for activity. It also is replacing other parts of the growth of some kids.

Kathy joins the podcast with invaluable insights on how a kid views hockey. And how a mom views hockey through their kids' eyes.