Today, Stephanie and Kevin welcome Joe Saul-Sehy and Emily Guy Birken, the co-authors of Stacked: Your Super-Serious Guide to Modern Money Management.   Emily is a former educator, lifelong money nerd, and a Plutus Award-winning freelance writer who specializes in the scientific research behind irrational money behaviors. She has the amazing ability to make complex financial topics relatable.   Joe is the creator and co-host of Stacking Benjamins, probably one of the most popular personal finance podcasts out there. He was a financial advisor for 16 years. Prior to that he, like many of us, made plenty of money mistakes. This motivated him down the path he is on today.   Today’s discussion centers around why our guests decided to write a funny book on the “serious” topic of personal finance. And we’re excited that they’re stopping in Philly next week (Sunday, April 10) on their book tour! Stephanie will be there to get her book signed. Come out and join us – say hello in person.     Key Topics: What motivated Joe and Emily to opt for a humorous approach to personal finance? (4:18) “My goal is to create financial surround sound that isn’t in your face.” (12:11) Teaching in a more engaging way (15:32) Why we shouldn’t shame our “Inner Veruca Salt” (19:40) Giving readers permission to spend their money (22:48) How fear gets in the way of us achieving our financial goals (27:56) The most fun chapter in the book (31:05) Picking the right advisor (37:10) How to get in touch with Joe and Emily (46:33) “What’s one question you wish we asked?” (49:35) Stephanie and Kevin’s closing thoughts (53:30)   Resources Mentioned: Stacked: Your Super-Serious Guide to Modern Money Management StackingBenjamins.com/Stacked (book tour info) EmilyGuyBirken.com @emilyguybirken on Twitter Joe Saul-Sehy on Twitter The Stacking Benjamins Podcast     If you like what you’ve been hearing, we invite you to subscribe on your favorite platform and leave us a review. Tell us what you love about this episode! Or better yet, tell us what you want to hear more of in the future. stephanie@sofiafinancial.com    You can find the transcript and more information about this episode at www.takebackretirement.com.   Follow Stephanie on Twitter, Facebook, YouTube and LinkedIn.  Follow Kevin on Twitter, Facebook, YouTube and LinkedIn.