In this week’s Quick Fire Friday episode, Troy interviews Gillian Pereira, co-founder of The Business Pickle, and Simon Smallchua, co-founder of Harvey. They’re both based in Melbourne, Australia. Gillian and Simon are co-founders of companies focused on using business as a means of good, helping small-medium business owners grow while at the same time creating strategies and plans to make sure they’re on track to make a positive impact on the world.   For businesses that are at the start of their journey toward taking responsibility for the environment. They can start by asking themselves these questions, is it a matter of waste they are creating with their business? Is it the carbon footprint of the company? Simon and Gillian help business owners tackle these questions by giving them a clear map of where they are and where the gaps are with their assessment tools, sustainability plans, and insightful research. When questioned about one thing they’d recommend a small business do on Monday, their collective answer is, “Progress is better than perfection.” When starting on something, like making an impact on the world, just starting a conversation, start with the kind of access that you have and not being pretentious about anything, which can do a lot, and build from there. This Cast Covers:  Helping businesses grow profitably while making a positive impact on the world. Where it all began for The Business Pickle. Developing sustainability plans and identifying gaps to accelerate their positive impact. Importance of considering different ESG factors of a company to evaluate the sustainability and ethical impact. Working with leaders/business owners that are motivated to create positive change. Case studies conducted by the research team of The Business Pickle. B Corp, a social, environmental, and accreditation system that started in the US. Practical aspects that small businesses can do around ESG. Being comfortable looking into the space and not seeking perfection. Finding charity partners that are closely aligned with the values of your business. Links:  Gillian’s Linkedin Gillian’s Company Website Simon’s Linkedin Simon’s Company Website Additional Resources: Patagonia Thankyou   Quotes: “Mapping out their reporting and other activities to make sure that they're on track to make a positive impact in the world.” — Gillian Pereira & Simon Smallchua. “We really love to work with leaders or businesses that are motivated to create some positive change.” — Gillian Pereira & Simon Smallchua. “So do some research, talk to people in your network, and find out what's already out there.” — Gillian Pereira & Simon Smallchua. “Be comfortable to sort of look into the space and don't seek perfection.” — Gillian Pereira & Simon Smallchua. “Progress is better than perfection.” — Gillian Pereira & Simon Smallchua.