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E35: Stability AI’s Emad Mostaque and Slow Ventures’ Sam Lessin Discuss Investing in AI
From"The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player Analysis
E35: Stability AI’s Emad Mostaque and Slow Ventures’ Sam Lessin Discuss Investing in AI
From"The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player Analysis
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Length:
67 minutes
Released:
Jun 13, 2023
Format:
Podcast episode
Description
In this episode, Nathan Labenz and Erik Torenberg host a discussion between Emad Mostaque, founder of Stability AI, and Sam Lessin, GP of Slow Ventures and former VP Product at Facebook. These influential technology thinkers tackle topics pertinent to evaluating whether AI is a good investment for venture capital. They talk about the attention and information economy, SaaS markets, how AI-created entertainment will impact society and our relationships, and AI disruption of highly-regulated industries.
The Cognitive Revolution is a part of the Turpentine podcast network. Learn more at www.turpentine.co
LINK FOR NATHAN'S LIVE EVENT IN SAN FRANCISCO:
Friday June 16th: Why AI with Athena: https://v4p9mjmurpv.typeform.com/to/llRcJSF9
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TIMESTAMP:
(00:00) Episode Preview
(01:17) Nathan explains why we hosted a conversation with Emad and Sam
(08:27) Conversation begins: AI as an extender rather than a deck shuffler
(12:03) Is AI a disruptive or sustaining innovation?
(14:22) What is intelligence?
(16:00) The attention and information economy
(22:00) Storytelling, the stock market, and the economy
(24:44) Sponsor: Omneky
(23:50) AI in the media industry, Hollywood, and distribution
(29:10) Startups vs incumbents
(30:35) Disrupting highly-regulated industries
(32:30) AI in education: an AI tutor for every child
(35:15) AI as StackOverflow 2.0 for engineers
(37:40) Regulatory Arbitrage
(40:08) The oracle problem in AI
(41:58) Apple as the weakest BigTech player in AI
(44:30) AI in communities and the future of social media
(46:55) Replika on Valentine’s Day and AI-generated porn
(53:50) How does the market for inference shape up? Inference vs. cloud
(55:08) Price of primary care in US in the next decade
(55:38) What are the most likely incumbents to be disrupted?
(56:55) Will BigTech continue to opensource?
(59:00) Marriage rate in US in the future given AI
(01:00:30) Can any AI leader sustain high gross margins in the future?
TWITTER:
@EMostaque (Emad)
@Lessin (Sam)
@CogRev_Podcast
@labenz (Nathan)
@eriktorenberg (Erik)
SPONSOR:
Thank you Omneky for sponsoring The Cognitive Revolution. Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work, customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off.
Download this episode as an mp3: https://chrt.fm/track/993DGA/traffic.megaphone.fm/RINTP2126380296.mp3?updated=1686676812
Music Credit: MusicLM
The Cognitive Revolution is a part of the Turpentine podcast network. Learn more at www.turpentine.co
LINK FOR NATHAN'S LIVE EVENT IN SAN FRANCISCO:
Friday June 16th: Why AI with Athena: https://v4p9mjmurpv.typeform.com/to/llRcJSF9
RECOMMENDED PODCAST:
Media Empires from Turpentine: https://link.chtbl.com/mediaempires
A new podcast where Erik Torenberg interviews influential media creators, podcasters, newsletter writers, and media entrepreneurs to learn exactly how they built their empires. Check out the first episode with Austin Rief, CEO of Morning Brew.
TIMESTAMP:
(00:00) Episode Preview
(01:17) Nathan explains why we hosted a conversation with Emad and Sam
(08:27) Conversation begins: AI as an extender rather than a deck shuffler
(12:03) Is AI a disruptive or sustaining innovation?
(14:22) What is intelligence?
(16:00) The attention and information economy
(22:00) Storytelling, the stock market, and the economy
(24:44) Sponsor: Omneky
(23:50) AI in the media industry, Hollywood, and distribution
(29:10) Startups vs incumbents
(30:35) Disrupting highly-regulated industries
(32:30) AI in education: an AI tutor for every child
(35:15) AI as StackOverflow 2.0 for engineers
(37:40) Regulatory Arbitrage
(40:08) The oracle problem in AI
(41:58) Apple as the weakest BigTech player in AI
(44:30) AI in communities and the future of social media
(46:55) Replika on Valentine’s Day and AI-generated porn
(53:50) How does the market for inference shape up? Inference vs. cloud
(55:08) Price of primary care in US in the next decade
(55:38) What are the most likely incumbents to be disrupted?
(56:55) Will BigTech continue to opensource?
(59:00) Marriage rate in US in the future given AI
(01:00:30) Can any AI leader sustain high gross margins in the future?
TWITTER:
@EMostaque (Emad)
@Lessin (Sam)
@CogRev_Podcast
@labenz (Nathan)
@eriktorenberg (Erik)
SPONSOR:
Thank you Omneky for sponsoring The Cognitive Revolution. Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work, customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off.
Download this episode as an mp3: https://chrt.fm/track/993DGA/traffic.megaphone.fm/RINTP2126380296.mp3?updated=1686676812
Music Credit: MusicLM
Released:
Jun 13, 2023
Format:
Podcast episode
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