On episode seventeen of the Gotta Be Saints Podcast, I talk with Anna Marie Ortiz and Liz Pastina, on mental health.Biography:Anna Marie completed her undergraduate degree at Franciscan University and is currently finishing up her PhD in clinical psychology at the University of Kentucky, where her research and clinical work specializes in eating disorders.Liz is a licensed social worker in Ohio. She received her Bachelor of Arts in Psychology at the University of Dayton (aka the greatest school out there) and her master’s in social work at the University of Tennessee. Liz completed her clinical internship during her graduate studies working with adults and teens in an Intensive Outpatient Program using the treatment Dialectical Behavioral Therapy. She currently works as a therapist with children and families. Episode breakdown::15 Introducing the guests – Anna Marie Ortiz and Liz Pastina3:00 Why are people so afraid to talk about mental health?7:00 What developments have been made over the last ten years? 9:10 – What about self-care?11:50 – Why did you enter this field?15:00 – How does faith tie into this?20:20 What is the difference between a counselor, psychologist and a psychiatrist?24:25 If I am dealing with anxiety, depression, addiction, eating disorder, etc. what are some first steps?29:45 Chris Christie story *Former Governor of NJ, not current Senator like I said**He attended Seton Hall, not Rutgers*34:00 Prayer can not be the only solution37:20 What are differences between therapy and spiritual direction? 39:30 Could everyone gain something from therapy? 45:30 Mt. Rushmore of Saints? 47:45 What are you going to be the patron saint of?Notes from talk:https://www.gottabesaints.com/post/can-we-just-talk-mental-health