In this episode of the All In Sustainable Business podcast, Mark and Chris welcome Leslie Johnston, CEO of the Laudes Foundation, an organization that is responding to the dual crises of inequality and climate change by supporting brave, innovative efforts that inspire and challenge industry to harness its power for good. Mark and Chris also discuss the evolving state of sustainability leadership, in particular when it comes to the ways in which the leadership challenge is shifting, and ways in which leadership performance is shifting – all themes they will explore at their upcoming session on leadership at the GreenBiz Conference in Phoenix in February with David. Mark and Chris also discuss the upcoming COP15 conference in Montreal, the FTX collapse, and the importance of good governance.