Is lighting art or science? If you’re a curator tasked with lighting design, where do you start? Is lighting about light, or about shadows? Lighting designers Steven Rosen and Ted Mather (Available Light) join host Jonathan Alger (C&G Partners) on Making the Museum, the podcast, to discuss Revealing the Story with Light. Along the way, we learn how an exhibition is like a theatrical stage, and get a reminder that design is a team sport.  Quotable Quotes: “If it ain’t lit, it ain’t there.” “Lighting is about choosing where the shadows are going to fall” “If the lips aren’t lit, no one hears them.” “More lights aren’t about being brighter, it’s about more control.” “You are painting with light.” “Design is a team sport” How to Listen:Subscribe and listen anywhere you get your podcasts. Or start here: https://makingthemuseum.transistor.fm/ See you there! Warmly,Jonathan - - - - - - - - - - - - - Guest Bios:Steven Rosen, President and Creative Director, Available Light: Merging performance lighting techniques with traditional non-theatrical environments launched Steven’s career and his founding of Available Light over 30 years ago. From Museum exhibits to immersive architecture to trade shows, the fun never stops—it helps that he works with some of the planet’s most talented lighting aficionados. The originality and grand scale of Steven’s award-winning designs are evident in many one-of-a-kind award-winning projects as: The Neural Climber interactive at the Franklin Institute, Ocean Hall for the Smithsonian Museum of Natural History, the International Spy Museum in DC, and Chicago MSI’s U-505. He is passionate about supporting the lighting community. Steven is a member of Praxis Museum Projects Group, a "network of professionals, each of whom brings an expertise to the process of creating exhibitions and cultural experiences in collaboration with exhibit designers, architects, and museums". Ted Mather, Managing Principal, New York Studio, Available Light:By design, Ted Mather’s career resides at the intersection of theatrical, entertainment, and architectural lighting. Ted’s dramatic flair and technical expertise merge seamlessly to create striking, dynamic environments and state-of-the-art installations. Ted’s decades of experience—working around the globe—means that his creative vision is balanced with what is truly practical and possible. Ted has transformed the Architainment industry with groundbreaking, award-winning projects such as The International Spy Museum, the National WWII Museum, and the National Museum of African American Music. Ted began his training at the University of Illinois and received his MFA in Stage design from NYU. About:Making the Museum is hosted (podcast) and written (newsletter) by Jonathan Alger. This is a project of C&G Partners | Design for Culture. Learn about the firm's creative work at: https://www.cgpartnersllc.comShow Links: Steven Rosenhttps://www.availablelight.comhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/steven-rosen-fiald-70a2593/https://www.praxisexhibits.comhttps://www.praxisexhibits.com/posts/89tp8gajbu2bvd4lnn9rqaf1z1eorm-a7w52https://www.businessoflight.orghttps://www.businessoflight.org/who-we-are.html Ted Matherhttps://www.availablelight.com/team/ted-matherhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/ted-mather-8963156/https://www.inparkmagazine.com/etc-from-theme-parks-to-everywhere/?fbclid=IwAR1uXhTUU_HqS07ML2FR8GzChSaXZj93JpPYM0i7mPn4003hCvbWVeO-Twc - - - - - - - - - - - - - Newsletter:Like the episode? Subscribe to the newsletter! Making the Museum is also a very short daily newsletter on exhibition planning for museum leaders, exhibition teams and visitor experience professionals. Learn more, read past editions, and subscribe here: https://www.makingthemuseum.com - - - - - - - - - - - - -