Behavioral psychologist, economist, entrepreneur, author of What You Think About When You Try Not To Think About Global Warming, TED speaker, and Member of the Norwegian Parliament. We discuss Per Espen's journey to becoming concerned about climate change, how and why he developed some of the foundations of the field of climate psychology, and conclude with an exploration of the different coping strategies people use to avoid engaging with the emotional consequences of a warming planet. Per Espen's TED Talk: https://www.ted.com/talks/per_espen_stoknes_how_to_transform_apocalypse_fatigue_into_action_on_global_warming?language=en