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E16: AI open letter debate, "pausers", and what we're all scared of with AI with Anton Troynikov, Flo Crivello, and Nathan Labenz
From"Moment of Zen"
E16: AI open letter debate, "pausers", and what we're all scared of with AI with Anton Troynikov, Flo Crivello, and Nathan Labenz
From"Moment of Zen"
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Length:
90 minutes
Released:
Apr 1, 2023
Format:
Podcast episode
Description
Anton Troynikov of Chroma, Flo Crivello of Lindy AI, and Nathan Labenz of Waymark and co-host of The Cognitive Revolution podcast join Erik Torenberg for a timely debate on the issues raised in the AI open letter which advocates for a 6-month pause on AI system trainings. Dan and Antonio will be back next week. We record our interviews with Riverside. Go to https://bit.ly/Riverside_MoZ + use code ZEN for 20%.
Check out the debut of Erik's new longform interview podcast Upstream. This coming season features interviews with Marc Andreessen, Balaji Srinivasan, Ezra Sacks, David Sacks, Katherine Boyle, and more.
Links:
Open letter: https://futureoflife.org/open-letter/pause-giant-ai-experiments/
Scott Aronson blog post: https://scottaaronson.blog/
Timestamps:
(3:00) Explanation of the AI open letter
(3:50) Anton’s skepticism of the open letter
(7:00) Flo’s skepticism of the open letter
(13:00) Nathan’s support for the open letter
(15:39) Sponsors
(20:00) Differences between Flo and Anton’s positions
(30:00) GPT4 is still dangerous
(38:00) Luddites/“Pausers” are on the wrong side of history
(42:00 )Why not pause 6 months?
(50:00) Anton and Flo debate robotics
(56:00) What we’re all scared of with AI
(1:21:00) Is there asymmetric risk with pausing or not pausing?
Twitter
@MOZ_Podcast
@atroyn (Anton)
@labenz (Nathan)
@eriktorenberg (Erik)
@altimor (Flo)
More shownotes and reading material released in our Substack: https://momentofzen.substack.com/
Thank you Secureframe for sponsoring (Use "Moment of Zen" for 20% discount) and Graham Bessellieu for production.
Check out the debut of Erik's new longform interview podcast Upstream. This coming season features interviews with Marc Andreessen, Balaji Srinivasan, Ezra Sacks, David Sacks, Katherine Boyle, and more.
Links:
Open letter: https://futureoflife.org/open-letter/pause-giant-ai-experiments/
Scott Aronson blog post: https://scottaaronson.blog/
Timestamps:
(3:00) Explanation of the AI open letter
(3:50) Anton’s skepticism of the open letter
(7:00) Flo’s skepticism of the open letter
(13:00) Nathan’s support for the open letter
(15:39) Sponsors
(20:00) Differences between Flo and Anton’s positions
(30:00) GPT4 is still dangerous
(38:00) Luddites/“Pausers” are on the wrong side of history
(42:00 )Why not pause 6 months?
(50:00) Anton and Flo debate robotics
(56:00) What we’re all scared of with AI
(1:21:00) Is there asymmetric risk with pausing or not pausing?
@MOZ_Podcast
@atroyn (Anton)
@labenz (Nathan)
@eriktorenberg (Erik)
@altimor (Flo)
More shownotes and reading material released in our Substack: https://momentofzen.substack.com/
Thank you Secureframe for sponsoring (Use "Moment of Zen" for 20% discount) and Graham Bessellieu for production.
Released:
Apr 1, 2023
Format:
Podcast episode
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