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E16: AI open letter debate, "pausers", and what we're all scared of with AI with Anton Troynikov, Flo Crivello, and Nathan Labenz

E16: AI open letter debate, "pausers", and what we're all scared of with AI with Anton Troynikov, Flo Crivello, and Nathan Labenz

From"Moment of Zen"


E16: AI open letter debate, "pausers", and what we're all scared of with AI with Anton Troynikov, Flo Crivello, and Nathan Labenz

From"Moment of Zen"

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Length:
90 minutes
Released:
Apr 1, 2023
Format:
Podcast episode

Description

Anton Troynikov of Chroma, Flo Crivello of Lindy AI, and Nathan Labenz of Waymark and co-host of The Cognitive Revolution podcast join Erik Torenberg for a timely debate on the issues raised in the AI open letter which advocates for a 6-month pause on AI system trainings. Dan and Antonio will be back next week. We record our interviews with Riverside. Go to https://bit.ly/Riverside_MoZ + use code ZEN for 20%.

Check out the debut of Erik's new longform interview podcast Upstream. This coming season features interviews with Marc Andreessen, Balaji Srinivasan, Ezra Sacks, David Sacks, Katherine Boyle, and more. 

Links:
Open letter: https://futureoflife.org/open-letter/pause-giant-ai-experiments/
Scott Aronson blog post: https://scottaaronson.blog/

Timestamps:
(3:00) Explanation of the AI open letter
(3:50) Anton’s skepticism of the open letter
(7:00) Flo’s skepticism of the open letter
(13:00) Nathan’s support for the open letter
(15:39) Sponsors
(20:00) Differences between Flo and Anton’s positions
(30:00) GPT4 is still dangerous
(38:00) Luddites/“Pausers” are on the wrong side of history
(42:00 )Why not pause 6 months?
(50:00) Anton and Flo debate robotics
(56:00) What we’re all scared of with AI
(1:21:00) Is there asymmetric risk with pausing or not pausing?

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@eriktorenberg (Erik)
@altimor (Flo)

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Thank you Secureframe for sponsoring (Use "Moment of Zen" for 20% discount) and Graham Bessellieu for production.
Released:
Apr 1, 2023
Format:
Podcast episode

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Erik Torenberg, Dan Romero, and Antonio Garcia Martinez discuss what's happening in technology, business, politics, and beyond.