Anonymous founders of the Effective Accelerations (e/acc) movement @Bayeslord and Beff Jezoz (@BasedBeff) join Erik Torenberg, Dan Romero, and Nathan Labenz to debate views on AI safety. We record our interviews with Riverside. Go to https://bit.ly/Riverside_MoZ + use code ZEN for 20%.(3:00) Intro to effective accelerationism(8:00) Differences between effective accelerationism and effective altruism(23:00) Effective accelerationism is bottoms-up(42:00) Transhumanism(46:00) “Equanimity amidst the singularity”(48:30) Why AI safety is the wrong frame(56:00) Pushing back against effective accelerationism(1:06:00) The case for AI safety(1:24:00) Upgrading civilizational infrastructure(1:33:00) Effective accelerationism is anti-fragile(1:39:00) Will we botch AI like we botched nuclear?(1:46:00) Hidden costs of emphasizing downsides(2:00:00) Are we in the same position as neanderthals, before humans?(2:09:00) “Doomerism has an unpriced opportunity cost of upside“More shownotes and reading material released in our Substack: https://momentofzen.substack.com/Thank you Secureframe for sponsoring (Use "Moment of Zen" for 20% discount) and Graham Bessellieu for production.