If you’re listening to this podcast, the question of what’s next is probably on your mind. Here's a helpful way to think about it. Some see life as a three-act play. Act One is birth through your twenties, Act Two is your 30s until age 60, which is often your most productive period professionally and for many raising a family. And then, there’s a Third Act, which for many people presents a new blank canvas to explore new or long-deferred pursuits and make a difference in the lives of others.

Josh Sapan is the author of The Third Act: Reinventing Your Next Chapter.  The book profiles 63 people who are pursuing meaningful third acts. Some are names you’ll know like Jane Fonda, Rita Moreno and Norman Lear. But most are people like you and I, and they are living inspiring stories that illustrate the wide range of opportunities for people to thrive and contribute in their third acts.

Josh Sapan joins us from New York.

(Three of the people profiled have visited with us on the podcast and you can find the links below).

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Bio

Josh Sapan is the recently retired President and CEO of AMC Networks. During his 36-year leadership of the company, with 26 as CEO, he’s been credited for creating some of the most celebrated and groundbreaking original content in television history, including Mad Men; Breaking Bad,  Better Call Saul; and The Walking Dead, and with building a portfolio of brands that includes AMC, BBC AMERICA IFC, SundanceTV, WE tv, IFC Films among others.

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For More on Josh Sapan

The Third Act: Reinventing Your Next Chapter

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Wise Quotes


On Curiosity 


"...the book has people who are well known, like Robert Redford, Alan Alda and Gloria Steinem. It also has many people who no one has never heard of. And there is, I think, something thematically consistent between those who are luminaries and those who are not, and I think that it is a few, a couple different things. One is curiosity. And I think a second thing is the ability somehow to actualize what is often resident in many people, which is a desire or a fantasy to do something. It can be socially impactful or it just can be a fantasy, but they all somehow have the capability to implement that which is in their heads and making it real in the world."

On Mentoring



"...it was a bit of an experiment. And I just immediately warmed to it because I just thought that it would be a nice thing to do. And also a friend introduced me to an organization in New York called The Fortune Society, which is a remarkable organization that does more than mentoring. It provides a whole range of services to people who've been incarcerated, and it helps them adjust in multiple ways. There's a residential facility and there's instruction. And so I've been also going out to the facility in Queens and doing -  I hesitate to call it mentoring, it's my attempt at mentoring. But the truth is I hope it's good for them. It's definitely good for me. And I really don't know if I'm helping them enough or perfectly. I am trying. It is spectacular to be around people whose day-to-day is entirely different than mine and whose frame of reference is different. Either a student or someone who's been in prison for 26 years - and I'm listening to what their challenges are in life, work, the world, and how they see the world. And I don't want to get coy and say it's really inspiring, but it is. And you mentioned something earlier when we were speaking about doing doing the exercises, and it does seem to me, at least for me,