The pandemic and economic fall-out have taken a toll on our society in a number of different ways, including a serious impact on our mental health. Before his appointment, Senator Stan Kutcher was an expert in the area, having served as the department head of psychiatry at Dalhousie University and as the director of the WHO Collaborating Centre for Research and Training in Mental Health. Nate and Senator Kutcher discuss the impact of the crisis, how mental health supports can be improved, and the importance of evidence over ideology in politics, with reference to psychedelics.