Hi everyone,I’m pleased to release this interview I recorded on Monday with vice presidential candidate Nicole Shanahan. We discuss her background in law and her investments in science, particularly in reproductive longevity. We delve into the need to restore free speech in science and the detrimental effects of suppressing dissenting voices. We highlight the inefficiency and high cost of the American healthcare system, particularly in addressing chronic diseases. Shanahan suggests investing in public health systems, rethinking agriculture practices, and ensuring access to clean water as preventive measures for chronic diseases.The conversation highlights the need for preventative healthcare and a shift away from relying solely on drugs to manage symptoms. We also discuss the influence of capitalism on healthcare and the importance of addressing conflicts of interest in the industry. The failures of regulatory bodies like the FDA and CDC are examined, with a focus on the need for screening for conflicts of interest and community-based input.We hope you enjoy this conversation.Chapters00:00 Introduction and Background10:03 Free Speech in Science25:40 Addressing the Root Causes of Chronic Disease29:31 Restoring Free Speech and Scientific Debate30:22 Shifting Towards Preventative Healthcare33:43 Corporate Capture in the Healthcare Industry36:48 Failures of the FDA, NIH, and CDC56:02 The Impact of the Pandemic on Education57:58 Prioritizing the Well-being and Development of ChildrenSound Bites* "Investing in science for the sake of information and not for the sake of a commercial outcome."* "A vast effort by the federal government to suppress the speech of scientists who disagreed with government scientists."* "Scientists do not feel comfortable publishing the paper they actually want to publish."* "We need preventative healthcare... healthcare professionals who aren't playing whack-a-mole with symptoms and their only tool being prescribing new drugs to patients."* "If sick people are being viewed as business opportunities, there's no incentive to reduce the numbers of needy people."* "The CDC, the FDA, the NIH, all have failed in pretty fundamental ways." This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.illusionconsensus.com/subscribe