About Dennis Murphy: Dennis is Lead OT Security Engineer at National Grid. He focuses on providing practical solutions to meet national critical infrastructure cyber security requirements. One of his main interests in OT cybersecurity is helping to bridge the gap between the information technology (IT) and operational technology (OT) domains. Control systems engineer turned cybersecurity leader, Dennis has decades of experience implementing OT cybersecurity strategies across a wide variety of industrial environments. This experience allows him to apply state-of-the-art cyber security solutions to national critical infrastructure asset owners while maintaining the continued reliable operation of OT networks.In this episode, Aaron and Dennis Murphy discuss:The challenges with IT and OT convergenceAchieving an accurate asset inventory around OT The importance of having the right endpoint dataThe challenges of SBOM and scope Key Takeaways:In industrial security, there is still a need for IT and OT to collaborate more closely in order to standardize on effective programs. It is important to continue communication about OT-specific requirements and which IT practices should not be applied to operational environments and to drive agreement on standard practices and technologies across multiple sites.Getting accurate and complete asset inventory and details is critical in making decisions for OT security and operations.  While traditional IT approaches should not be used, there are effective ways now to get the visibility and endpoint data you need in OT environments. Giving analysts the complete picture of the device, its use, function, and configuration help to more quickly decide the course of action and remediations. When it comes to SBOM, understanding the subcomponents is easier with new gear than it is with existing equipment. New systems can be pen tested as they come in. With existing systems, you need to consider when it makes sense to query, when that information might change, and what’s the scope of information needed.   Connect with Dennis Murphy:  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dennis-murphy-ot-security/ Connect with Aaron:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aaronccrowLearn more about Industrial Defender:Website: https://www.industrialdefender.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/industrial-defender-inc/Twitter: https://twitter.com/iDefend_ICSYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@industrialdefender7120Show notes by Podcastologist Melvin RomeroAudio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it.