About Jonathan Tubb: Jonathan Tubb is a seasoned cybersecurity expert, renowned for his proficiency in crafting innovative solutions to address the most pressing security issues in the power generation sector. With a background in Computer Engineering from Ohio State University and a Professional Engineer (P.E.) license, he has over 15 years of hands-on experience. Currently serving as the Director of Industrial Cyber and Digital Security at Siemens Energy, Inc., Jonathan also imparts his knowledge as a lecturer for a master's course in Operational Technology Cyber Security at Duke University's Pratt School of Engineering.In this episode, Aaron and Jonathan Tubb discuss:Navigating the evolving landscape of OT cybersecurityImplementing cybersecurity measures for small modular reactors in the energy industryCross-disciplinary expertise in OT cybersecurity and the need for specialized training programsThe future of IT-OT convergenceKey Takeaways:In the evolving landscape of industrial cybersecurity, the shift from minimal compliance to recognizing the real-world impact and the urgent need for cross-training in IT and OT is crucial to bridging the knowledge gap and securing critical infrastructure effectively.As the energy industry progresses with new technologies like small modular reactors, the existing regulatory frameworks and cybersecurity practices face challenges in adapting to these changes, highlighting the need for flexible and scalable cybersecurity solutions in critical infrastructure.In the complex world of OT cybersecurity, the key to success lies in having the right people with a deep understanding of both engineering and cybersecurity, bridging the gap between the two worlds to protect critical infrastructure and ensure reliability in an ever-evolving landscape.The future of IT/OT convergence holds both excitement and concern, as the integration of these systems could lead to unprecedented efficiencies and insights, but a heavy-handed approach may risk pulling the plug on progress, hindering the potential benefits for both cybersecurity and operations. "I hope that the outcome of all this is positive for both sides of the industry, for practitioners, for the business side, like I see a destination where cybersecurity and operations are holding hands, skipping through a field." — Jonathan Tubb Connect with Jonathan Tubb:  Email: jonathan.tubb@gmail.comLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathan-tubbHackers Teaching Hackers Event: https://www.hthackers.comGridSecCon 2023: https://www.nerc.com/pa/CI/ESISAC/Pages/GridSecCon.aspxConnect with Aaron:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aaronccrowLearn more about Industrial Defender:Website: https://www.industrialdefender.com/podcast LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/industrial-defender-inc/Twitter: https://twitter.com/iDefend_ICSYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@industrialdefender7120Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it.