This teaching is by Dr. Simon Child. Chan Master Simon Child, Jing-hong Chuan-fa, Guiding Teacher of the Western Chan Fellowship, is the third Dharma Heir of the late Chan Master Sheng Yen. Simon trained for over thirty years with both Dr John Crook and Master Sheng Yen, and was the Secretary of the Western Chan Fellowship from its founding until his appointment as Guiding Teacher in 2011.  You can find more from him at https://www.westernchanfellowship.org This podcast is run by the London Chan Meditation. You can find out more about us at https://londonchanmeditation.org