Jolene is joined by the one and only Carta Monir! Tune in to hear about being a woman and a faggot, the Tom of Finland house, the Baha'i faith, going to Michfest As An Ally, gay-straight alliances, and more. 
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The intro and outro music is by Lynn July. You can listen to more of her music at: https://tinytachyon.bandcamp.com/
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