Jolene is joined by Rowan to talk about their life! Listen in for stories of: recreational testosterone use, teen tinder in Maine, lesbianism as a gender, serially favorite personing girls, and more. Jolene made Rowan read Testo Junkie, and then goes on a tangent about plasticity as a concept + academic bullshit. Apologies in advance.

Rowan is putting out music in a few weeks! It'll be here, I assume: https://open.spotify.com/artist/1zurhHibZPPXm6YnLMY1Xg?si=4T6KLlVBTnO11yk6cTw5og


The intro and outro music is by Lynn July. You can listen to more of her music at: https://tinytachyon.bandcamp.com/
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