Jolene is joined by Ariel to discuss her transition. Included are: gender in between Anglo-American, Latina, and Jewish spaces, transitioning to non-binary leatherman, transitioning to a trans woman who is still sort of a leatherman, capoiera, a frankly weird amount of bisexual erasure, the pansexual kink scene, Japanese rope bondage, getting really theoretical about Japanese rope bondage, and more.
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The intro and outro music is by Lynn July. You can listen to more of her music at: https://tinytachyon.bandcamp.com/
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