Kelly and Chip discuss new beginnings and fresh starts in the form of organization with celebrity organizer, Ria Safford. Ria has worked with clients like Jen Atkin, Chrissy Teigan, Paris Hilton and more and really started the game 10 days after giving birth to her third child! She talks about being a messy person turned organizer and gives tangible tips for people not wired for organization or born natural organizers. This fun filled conversation is full of laughs and pandemic recovery talks too!Socials: @riorganizeWebsite: riorganize.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.