This phrase describes both our work as Experiential educators but it is also a large part of Bryn's pathway in this industry. In this episode, Bryn Lottig (co-founder of Kikori) talks to Phil about; - The transformational power of working in the outdoors and its effects on her - The need for this educational pedagogy to be taken seriously  - The best advice she has recieved in her career so far Connect with Bryn - bryn@kikoriapp.com  Learn more about Kikori - https://www.kikoriapp.com/