Elle Griffin set out to query her gothic novel and, in the process, made some disappointing discoveries about the publishing industry that led her to serialize it on Substack. Today she's going to share her journey down this unconventional path that definitely has some upsides, like making $19K her first year on Substack and retaining the rights to her work. Elle also shares why Anne Lamott's shitty first draft advice does not work for her, what it's been like writing her second serialized novel as she's publishing it, and more. Elle is the author of the gothic novel Obscurity, and she's currently writing a utopian novel called Oblivion. Subscribe to The Novelleist, Elle's newsletter imagining a more beautiful future, on Substack.*If you're an aspiring or indie podcaster, subscribe to Podcast Bestie newsletter for jobs, industry info, craft and marketing tips, and more: https://podcastbestie.substack.com/welcomeWelcome, writers and book lovers. The Bleeders is a new podcast about book writing and publishing. Make sure you subscribe to the companion Substack: https://thebleeders.substack.com/welcomeThe Bleeders is hosted by Courtney Kocak. Follow her on Twitter and Instagram @courtneykocak. For more, check out her website courtneykocak.com.