In this episode I have a great conversation with friend, composer, music guru and pun enthusiast, Jay Derderian. We talk about music, musical institutions, the creative process, culture and changes in Detroit and Portland, cricket choruses, the opening chords to Beethoven's 3rd Symphony over the years and... I mean what else do you want me to list? We also listen to one of Jay's works "Outside the Eyes" for string quartet, performed by Third Angle new music ensemble in Portland, Oregon. It's an awesome piece!! It's also a great conversation. Fasten your socks, tighten your seat belts, fire up your favorite strand and let's go for an intellectual stroll, my friends.