Julian Jessop, Economic Fellow at the Institute for Economic Affairs, joins Christopher Hope to talk about what went wrong for Trussonomics, and why he believes it's a case of fleshing out the plan, not about doing a U-turn.Also on the podcast, Restore Trusts' Zewditu Gebreyohanes takes Chopper through her concerns about the National Trust and why it's not just a case of a 'war on woke'.Plus the Telegraph's own Maighna Nanu on the point of party conferences when the country is in crisis. For 30 days' free access to The Telegraph: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/chopper |Sign up to the Chopper's Politics newsletter: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politicsnewsletter|Listen to Call Bethel: https://podfollow.com/call-bethel|Email: chopperspolitics@telegraph.co.uk |We'd like to ask you a few questions about the ads in this podcast. Please click here to take a quick survey.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.