Yvette Cooper MP joins Christopher Hope on the week that Rishi Sunak unveiled his plans to tackle illegal immigration. Conservatives think that illegal migration is the one policy area where the party can beat Labour, but the Shadow Home Secretary unsurprisingly disagrees.She tells Chopper that Labour ministers will set themselves the objective to stop all small boats' crossings in the English Channel. Plus in a show of cross-party praise, she hails Theresa May's work to help victims of people trafficking as "pioneering" - and worries that this new Bill risks undoing all that work.Also on the podcast, Damian Green MP on why he is backing the Bill and why he thinks Gary Linekar isn't as erudite a political thinker as he seems to think he is, and Telegraph columnist Anne-Elisabeth Moutet on whether we're about to embark on a new Entente Cordiale between Sunak and French President Emmanuel Macron.For 30 days' free access to The Telegraph: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/chopper |Sign up to the Chopper's Politics newsletter: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politicsnewsletter |Read Chopper's Peterborough diary: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/peterborough-diary |Listen to Ukraine: the latest: www.playpodca.st/ukraine |Email: chopperspolitics@telegraph.co.uk |See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.