How do treasurers effectively drive change across an organization? On this episode of the podcast, Craig Jeffery talks with Todd Picken, Treasurer at MassMutual to discuss the joys and opportunities of treasury transformation and how both need to be tempered with a dose of reality.  From treasury operations to customer experience, they share valuable insights to help navigate real change across treasury environments. Topics of discussion center around achieving success through paying for transformation, moving the culture forward and getting technology to work. Listen in to find out more.