Is there a difference between boring and bad design‽ The guys try to keep things good and exciting while realizing that boring design might just be the backbone of typography and bad design can sometimes be a catalyst of innovation. Kyle talks chairs and Josh descends the NYC Subway into chaos. Little does Kyle know, but he's getting a balloon chair for Christmas...Font releases highlighted in this episode:Goldich from Bold MondayErgon from Commercial TypeField Gothic from Signal TypeCoFo Cinema 1909 from Contrast FoundryUpcoming conference highlighted in this episode:The Kernference from Goodtype, Nov 1-4. 2022, VirtualClick here to subscribe to the Weekly Newsletter to get all the latest type news and notes from your friends at Proof&Co!Please take a moment to rate and review us on your podcasting site of choice and if you like what you hear, tell your friends and family they should listen too!