Episode transcript available here.On this weeks episode of West meeting room producers Janine and Lisa sit down with Sarah B. Zaman to deconstruct shame and engage in nuanced conversations about its deep-rooted impact on all of our lives. Shame, much like embarrassment and guilt, can be debilitating but throughout this conversation Sarah, Janine, and Lisa find strength in situations that put them to shame in the past and opt for a narrative that emphasizes confidence, self-forgiveness, and courage.