Charles St.Louis is the COO at Element Finance, a protocol for fixed and variable rate yield markets and previously the governance architect at MakerDAO. In this conversation, we talked about Element’s governance system - with a particular focus on voting vaults, a powerful new primitive that decouple the relationship between capital and voting power and allow much more expressiveness in how users are given a governance voice in the ecosystem.Timestamps:2:54 MakerDAO’s arc of decentralization7:51 how Maker influenced Element’s design10:22 the Governance Steering Council21:25 voting vaults29:10 L1 and L2 for governance33:23 qualitative evaluation for contributions37:50 the ElFiverse and NFTs in the Element community42:24 on being a protocol delegateMentioned in the show: The Governance Steering Council - https://medium.com/element-finance/the-governance-steering-council-63aea7732262 Voting Vaults - https://docs.element.fi/governance-council/council-protocol-smart-contracts/voting-vaults The Elfiverse - https://elfiverse.element.fi/