This is my conversation with Liam Horne, former CEO and advisor to Optimism Labs.00:00 Intro 00:59 sponsor: Privy (privy.io)03:35 early influences, classmates with Vitalik in Waterloo08:31 Ethereum's potential and why scalability matters10:06 learning from Jeff Coleman17:23 defining a common language 21:06 importance of community in Ethereum26:34 hackathons lead to progress31:36 collaboration as a core ETH value38:30 humility and collective learning47:27 building a public good53:07 building Optimism with Ethereum values01:09:27 sponsor: Optimism (optimism.io) 01:17:41 decentralization is a journey01:20:59 staying true to your principles01:32:51 building something new is difficult01:36:28 Jing Wang01:42:10 Georgios KonstantopoulosThank you to our sponsors for making this podcast possible:Optimism - https://optimism.ioPrivy - https://privy.ioInto the Bytecode:Other episodes and transcripts - https://intothebytecode.xyz/Newsletter for updates - https://bytecode.substack.comTwitter - https://twitter.com/sinahabRelevant Links:University of Waterloo https://uwaterloo.ca/(Almost) Everything you need to know about Optimistic Rollup by Georgios Konstantopoulos https://www.paradigm.xyz/2021/01/almost-everything-you-need-to-know-about-optimistic-rollupETHGlobal https://ethglobal.com/Produced by https://spectral.to