“I guess that’s the fun of it because there’s no end. There’s never a perfect race, you’re never finished.” Jon Sabes becomes the interviewer in this Episode. Jon is the Chief Executive Officer at FOXO BioScience. Recorded at Telescope Peek in Death Valley, Jon interviews Luis Escobar. They chat about the beginnings of the Road Dog Podcast, Western States 100, Born To Run, the influence of the Tarahumara Indians, Badwater Ultramarathon, and many more races. Support Road Dog Podcast by: 1. Joining the Patreon Community: https://www.patreon.com/roaddogpodcast 2. Subscribe to the podcast on whatever platform you listen on. HAMMER NUTRITION show code: Roaddog2020 Listeners get a special 15% off at https://www.hammernutrition.com Jon Sabes Contact Info: Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jon-sabes-14368257/ Luis Escobar (Host) Contact: luis@roaddogpodcast.com Luis Instagram Kevin Lyons (Producer) Contact: kevin@roaddogpodcast.com yesandvideo.com Music: Slow Burn by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/ Photo: Photography by Kaori Peters kaoriphoto.com Road Dog Podcast Adventure With Luis Escobar www.roaddogpodcast.com