Matt talks to the legendary Patti Paniccia, former professional surfer, and co-founder of the women’s pro tour, a lawyer, a champion for gender equality, a broadcast journalist, a law professor, and mother of two. So, basically a slacker.

Matt and Patti talk about her ground-breaking careers, her biggest successes and most terrifying wipeout, how far women have come in sports (and how far they still have to go), as well as cover hard-hitting topics, like referring to Malibu as “the bu,” and whether or not surfers really pee in their wet suits.