What does it look like when recovery programs are informed by people who have experienced addiction themselves? Hosts Jeff Proctor and Ski Ahmad talk to Scott Strode, founder of The Phoenix, about his experience overcoming addiction, discovering his full potential, and helping thousands of others do the same. Together, they explore how the principle of bottom-up solutions can be used to radically transform lives and communities.Hosts for this Episode: Jeff Proctor and Ski AhmadGuest: Scott Strode, Founder, The PhoenixProduced by BitterSweet CreativeExecutive Producers: Obiekwe "Obi" Okolo and Robert WinshipEditing, Engineering and Sound Design: Robert WinshipTitle Track: “Everything (Instrumental Version)” by Tilden ParcSpecial Thanks to Producers: Molly Ringel and Elgin Cato