This week we speak to our fellow PDM-er, Pythonista and friend Ryan Austin about  The Payroll App he just released.What does the app do? How did he tackle coding such a complex app? What were some of the struggles? And what about the mindset he had to apply to get through it all? As usual we also talk wins and books of course.Enjoy and we hope this inspires you to build your own app / project / side gig. There is nothing more satisfying that that and it's an asset on your  resume / for your career. So we challenge you: find a niche and start building a solution. If you need help come talk to us.Resources / links:Mentioned beautiful quote from Henry Wadsworth Longfellow: "The heights by great men reached and kept were not attained by sudden flight, but they, while their companions slept, were toiling upward in the night."Ryan's last appearance on the PyBites podcast where we spoke about following your dreams.Our Time for a break episode where we talk about the benefit of switching off.Ryan used PyBites Tools for AWS S3 uploads.Ryan built this inside PDM. You can learn more about our coaching program here. Books: The Code Breaker / Night / The Phantom Atlas / Skin in the gameGet in touch with Ryan via Twitter or the PyBites Community.And again, check out Ryan's app here.Thanks for listening!