This episode is the second part of my discussion with Gill Kernick about the Grenfell Tower Disaster and the broader lessons we can draw from it.In the previous episode, Gill and I talked about Grenfell. I recommend listening to that before listening to this one. You'll find it here: https://www.humanriskpodcast.com/gill-kernick-on-the-grenfell-tower-disaster-part-one/Using historical examples like the 17th century Great Fire of London and a fire in the late 1990s at a gas plant in Australia, Gill illustrates that we didn't adequately learn many lessons from those incidents. I wanted to explore Gill's more significant picture thinking - having looked at past examples relevant to Grenfell, what lessons has she learned about human behaviour?Links to subjects we discuss:Gill's website - https://grenfellenquirer.blog/GIll's book - https://grenfellenquirer.blog/catastrophe-systemic-change-the-book/The Great Fire of London - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Fire_of_London