Til and Whitney talk to Healwell’s Cal Cates about how their work with death and dying brought perspective and presence to their work as a massage therapist; and to living itself. 
 
Topics include: 
How is “being a massage therapist in the modern world a total setup”?
What do we say when our clients just want results?
How do our personal experiences influence the way we engage with our clients?

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Resources and references discussed in this episode: 
"Death, Dying, and the Breakability of Us All" article in Massage & Bodywork 
Interdisciplinary podcast 
“Opening to the Mystery” online retreat  
Whitney Lowe’s site: AcademyOfClinicalMassage.com 
Til Luchau’s site: Advanced-Trainings.com 

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(The Thinking Practitioner Podcast is intended for professional practitioners of manual and movement therapies: bodywork, massage therapy, structural integration, chiropractic, myofascial and myotherapy, orthopedic, sports massage, physical therapy, osteopathy, yoga, strength and conditioning, and similar professions. It is not medical or treatment advice.)