Curt and Katie talk about the idea that burnout and depression could actually be the same thing. We look at how stigma and a sense of superiority may inhibit clinicians from reporting that they’re actually experiencing depression rather than “burnout.”          It’s time to reimagine therapy and what it means to be a therapist. To support you as a whole person and a therapist, your hosts, Curt Widhalm and Katie Vernoy talk about how to approach the role of therapist in the modern age. In this episode we talk about: The blog article that sparked the conversation about why doctors don’t get depressed The idea that burnout and depression may be the same thing The functionality of diagnosis in treatment and how it impacts what one is diagnosed The definitions of burnout and depression and the different schools of thought The place of elitism both in the definition and the treatment of burnout A sense of superiority and or a feeling of higher level on the hierarchy leading to less burnout and depression Katie’s ideas around simple burnout or complicated burnout and the overuse of that word Where the ideas around burnout actually came from and whether it is a sound foundation The medical model divorcing depression from situational factors The concern that pop psychology may have invaded the space The idea that when people have sought the situation that has led to burnout or depression – there is an existential crisis The rationale that it is “worth it” because we have sacrificed to move forward in our career Tips from Freudenberger (who introduced the concept of Burnout) on how to avoid or treat burnout: hiring, work culture, thoughtfulness about work and work day, breaks and vacations, staff development and feeling time, sharing experiences, time off to learn, adequate staffing, balance of physical exercise Our Generous Sponsor: GreenOak Accounting You went to school to become a therapist, not an accountant! Your time is much better spent doing what you love–helping people–and not crunching numbers. That’s where GreenOak Accounting comes in! They specialize in increasing the profit of private practices just like yours, so you can reclaim precious hours each week! If you are interested in freeing up your schedule for more clients, or just to get some time back for yourself, if you’re behind on your books or ready to implement Profit First, or need someone on your financial team who really understands private practice and can help your business grow, go to greenoakaccounting.com to schedule a 100% free no-obligation consultation today or sign up for 5 days of profit-boosting emails. Resources mentioned: We’ve pulled together resources mentioned in this episode and put together some handy-dandy links. Please note that some of the links below might be affiliate links, so if you purchase after clicking below, we may get a little bit of cash in our pockets. We thank you in advance! The Fugitive Psychiatrist Article Katie’s concept Sacrificial Helping Syndrome Brenninkmeijer, V., Van Yperen, N. W. & Buunk, A. P. in Personality and Individual Differences: Burnout and depression are not identical twins: is decline of superiority a distinguishing feature? Maslach’s Burnout Inventory Herbert Freudenberger 1974: Staff Burnout Freudenberger’s books: Burnout: The high cost of high achievement Women's Burnout: For the Woman Who's Made Commitments to Everyone But Herself   Therapy Reimagined 2020 Conference: Speakers!!   Therapy Reimagined 2020 Call for Sponsors   Relevant Episodes: Self-Care, Self-Compassion, and Self-Awareness for Therapists Compassion Fatigue Managing Vicarious Trauma The Danger of Poor Self-Care as a Therapist Toxic Work Environments All Kinds of Burned Out The Burnout System Addressing the Burnout System   Connect with us! Our Facebook Group – The Modern Therapists Group Get Notified About Therapy Reimagined 2020 (and TR2019 Virtual Conference)   Our consultation services: The Fifty-Minute Hour   Who we are: Curt Wid