Whitney Lowe talks with Cal Cates, executive director of Healwell. They tackle the challenging issues of how to recognize advanced training and the challenges of integrating massage into the healthcare system. 
Episode topics include: 
Why is advanced credentialing important for us? 
What are some of the big challenges we face when attempting to be part of the healthcare system? 
Who is ultimately responsible for advanced credentialing? 

Get the full transcript at Til or Whitney's sites! 
Resources and references discussed in this episode: 
Healwell: https://www.healwell.org/ 
Whitney Lowe’s site: AcademyOfClinicalMassage.com 
Til Luchau’s site: Advanced-Trainings.com 

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