Carina is joined by her sister and Etsy guru SuiKim Friedmann on today’s episode of the Make and Design Podcast. Carina and Kim get real about the struggles of parenting while running a business during the busy summer months while kids are out of school. Kim took the advice from her last visit to the podcast and freed up some additional time by hiring someone to help her with her workflow. Carina runs through her typical daily routine during the summer. Find out how the sisters break up their day to make sure that they get work done for their businesses while still spending quality time with the kiddos. Carina gives another recommendation for the book “When” by Daniel H. Pink.   __________ Download Carina’s free guide: The 7 Tips Nobody Will Tell You About Becoming a Surface Pattern Designer here: http://eepurl.com/dN2RcY  __________ About Carina Gardner: Carina Gardner is a fabric designer, paper designer, and design educator who is passionate about helping other designers fulfill their creative dreams by teaching them her strategies for making money as a designer. She has a Ph.D. in Design and taught design at the University of Minnesota before starting Carina Gardner, Inc.   Carina Gardner, Inc design brand has been featured in dish ware, holiday decor, sewing patterns, and more. Her exclusive Design Suite Program helps creatives make money designing as they learn to design. Her programs include Illustrator and Photoshop training, surface pattern design, paper design, Silhouette & Cricut file design, and running a design business. She started the Make and Design Podcast so that she could share inspiration, stories, and experiences about design and life with crafters and designers.   Find out more at https://www.carinagardner.com Check out her most popular program, Design Bootcamp, here: http://www.carinagardnercourses.com/designbootcamp  Watch this episode as a video at https://www.makeanddesign.com/   About Today’s Guest SuiKim Friedmann is an Etsy guru, coach, and blogger who shares her wisdom on how to build a dynamite Etsy shop at www.suikim.com. Her old website, www.kimcrafts.com, will redirect you to the new one!