I'm so excited to talk to you. You and I are part of the she recovers. Coaching community. And you and I have been doing lots of work together. Gosh, it's been a while since you went through the podcasting class, but we had so much fun I have, I just want to thank you publicly for all the generous support that you've given me. And you're such an inspiration for me and many people you're really generous with, with what you have. So sweet. Yes, it's I mean, it's my pleasure, right? Those of us who sort of been to the edge and have sort of survived, we do feel this impulse, this natural impulse to try to save people from their suffering. And so and you know, right back atcha sister, it's like, I love all the work that you're doing. You're you've just been doing a ton of work and, and helping other people recover, and, you know, come out of their suffering. So, yeah, fun. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I love collaborating. I love being inspired and hearing what other people are doing. And I'm definitely in the stage where I met with, you know, everything I'm doing that I'm having fun with it. It's like playful, it is playful, and you're doing so much good work. So you're launching a podcast, you're coaching, you're just you're doing classes, so blasts lots and lots of stuff. So, as I've been doing lately, we're gonna start with the lightning round. Are you cheated? You already heard somebody else's? Oh, definitely. I prepared a fair. Yeah, I wanna I want to be, you know, not too good care of myself taking care of that. Inner Child work, right. There's always now Okay, speaks about taking care of teenage Savelle in this situation. Okay. That is awesome. Because I didn't don't really, you know, I've been sober for a long time. And I don't know if I've actually already done inner child work. But I can't wait to hear about your perspective on that. Yeah. Good. Okay, we'll get into the inner child stuff. But let's do a lightning round questions. What's your favorite? What was your favorite recovery book when you first got sober? Yeah, I love that question. Because it brought me back to probably like 2010, I was at the grocery store. And I was, you know, I had my wine in my cart. And I remember looking, you know, how they have all those magazines, as you're checking out. I don't even remember which magazine, it was like a woman's day or one of those. And there was a title of an article that said, mommy doesn't drink here anymore. And I grabbed it and hit it and bought it, read the article, and then threw it away. But that was really the beginning of planting the seed for me that that was something I wanted to look at. And I remember in the magazine article, she said, You have to tell one person, and I thought to myself, no way. Not telling anybody. So then, I got sober in 2011. And I thought about her in that article. And I googled, mommy doesn't drink anymore. And it was a book. And so the, you know, the magazine article was probably four because of the book. And I Her name is Rachel brown now. And I ordered the book and read it. And that led me I'm not even exactly sure. But somehow that led me to the online group for well, and it took me to the bfb, which is the booze free Brigade, which was a private Yahoo, I think was Yahoo group. And that led me to a secret Facebook group and that was kind of like the beginning for me of that's where I met Don Nicole, that's where I met all the women that I still know today who are in my gratitude group and and just yeah, led me to she recovers and, and all of that. So that was that. That's the book that I you know, would say was like the most instrumental for me for planting the seed is mommy doesn't drink here anymore. Mommy doesn't drink anymore. That is amazing. Yeah. You mentioned on Nicole and she is the co founder of Shiva covers and I think they're one of their Facebook groups has a total of like 300,000 women on it. I mean, there's Yeah, the page the business page has at least 300,000 and the