Dr. Ana Martins joins Dr. David Ebert and Andrew Lewin to discuss her career studying elasmobranchs in Brazil, Australia (with Dr. Michelle Heupel); and now, Canada. Michelle discusses how she left Brazil to work with Michelle in Australia even though she did not know how to speak English at the time. She talks about how she overcame that challenge and others. We also discuss her new research in studying the supply chains of shark meat from around the world. Connect with AES: Twitter: https://twitter.com/ElasmoSociety Website: http://elasmo.org/